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by TheGZeus
Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:23 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

Paul wrote:
TheGZeus wrote:Also, as I said, there's more than one means to the same end. You can get to the same situation without the government being involved.
You can have government grants without government?
Don't be rude.
That's a means.
Not an end.

If you didn't read my entire post, don't reply to it.
by TheGZeus
Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:50 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

What does that have to do with the price of tea? You suggesting that before they became states, there were no governments involved with them? :lol: The so-called "robber barons" arose out of government grants of land and money to railroad companies, etc. Serfdom, of course, is purely a feature of (...
by TheGZeus
Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:58 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

If you go too small in governmental/regulatory power you're back to robber barons, sharecropping, surfdom and boom/bubble and bust economics. You have that backwards...those things you list are/were caused by government; if you "go too small in governmental/regulatory power", you solve those proble...
by TheGZeus
Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:22 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

First, if people aren't charitable enough, then perhaps we really, as a society just aren't that charitable and perhaps the number of welfare recipients would decrease once they realize that. In other words, either we are charitable or we aren't. If we aren't, why are some of us trying to coerce (f...
by TheGZeus
Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:32 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

So, for instance, I get the feeling that if I invest in a tobacco company, you would think that I was doing something wrong and putting investment profit ahead of good health and social welfare. As a libertarian, that doesn't trouble me, particularly since tobacco is a legal substance with a long h...
by TheGZeus
Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:43 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

So what? Is there something wrong with being concerned about ROI? I don't know about you, but my primary investment goal is good returns. Investments are not charities. My point is that as long as they have good ROI, they don't care how they get it. They don't even care if it's not good in the long...
by TheGZeus
Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:33 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

Privately owned companies serve the owner, employees, and customers. What comes first to them is their choice. Publically traded companies serve the shareholders, always. Private companies serve whoever the owner wants them to serve. There is nothing that prevents a private company from screwing it...
by TheGZeus
Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:03 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

[quote="findinglisp" I think you're stretching things. It's a nutritionless poison in the same sense as tobacco, potato chips, gin, and any number of other things that we allow people to consume. That's far different from something like cyanide which I what I think of when I see "poison." Note that...
by TheGZeus
Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:02 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Tragedy of the commons
Replies: 56
Views: 61829

Re: Tragedy of the commons

I don't buy the "corporations are evil" thing spouted by many people (not necessarily you). Corporations can be bad in the same way that individuals can be bad. Corporations by themselves are simply organizational and legal structures for how groups of people can work together; they are inert by th...
by TheGZeus
Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:14 pm
Forum: Other Dialects
Topic: Clojure hate and Language Wars
Replies: 17
Views: 35752

Re: Clojure hate and Language Wars

Huh? Why? Completely cut off, no chance. It was 2 years ago, its possible I just noticed I'd lost at 6 moves, and played longer, or it may have been 12 moves... Sorry, I just find it hard to imagine a resignworthy position after 12 moves, unless you were playing on a small board (9x9). Yeah, 2 year...