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by JamesF
Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:21 pm
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Rant: lisp is not C. Get over it.
Replies: 47
Views: 24866

Re: Rant: lisp is not C. Get over it.

In any case, I do't get why people think lisp is weird/hard/primitive. It's is what it is and it's whatever you want on top of that. I get why they think it's weird: it's different to the Algol family. What bugs me is the consistent whining that it's wrong because it's different to that family. OOP...
by JamesF
Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:05 pm
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Rant: lisp is not C. Get over it.
Replies: 47
Views: 24866

Rant: lisp is not C. Get over it.

I've just read yet another "objective" dissection of lisp's faults. Here are my responses to the non-issues that turn up time and time again: The syntax/parentheses. This is lisp's main strength. It's only a problem if you're expecting lisp to be like, well, something that isn't lisp. If you want sy...
by JamesF
Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:23 pm
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: To learn or not to learn, that is the question
Replies: 11
Views: 10410

Re: To learn or not to learn, that is the question

We're all biased here, but I think it'd be worth learning. It's been said (by Eric Raymond) that the experience of having grokked lisp will make you a better programmer. I rarely work in other languages, but when I do I'm certainly much less prone to using global variables, and much better at decomp...
by JamesF
Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:52 am
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?
Replies: 19
Views: 20977

Re: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?

dlweinreb wrote:I'd be very interested to hear what people are using to generate HTML, JavaScript, and such.
I'm using cl-who, which is working well enough. The only gotcha I've found so far is getting the hang of when to use (format nil ...) vs (format t ...). Haven't tried playing with javascript yet.
by JamesF
Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:03 am
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?
Replies: 19
Views: 20977

Re: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?

Wodin: thanks! That's exactly what I needed.
by JamesF
Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:45 pm
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?
Replies: 19
Views: 20977

Re: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?

After the obligatory power outage takes down everything in the data center, you don't want to be faced with restarting oodles of Lisp-based applications all by hand. No, no I certainly don't. I've refined it to a pretty quick and simple process, but it'll be automated before long. The reason it has...
by JamesF
Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:07 pm
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?
Replies: 19
Views: 20977

Re: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?

Haven't had a problem with screen so far, so I haven't worried about that. I'd prefer to use slime, but can't stand emacs; long-term, I'm hoping to equip climacs with vim bindings and use that. I've actually been running a lisp server that way for a few months now (demo version of one of the sites),...
by JamesF
Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:52 pm
Forum: Common Lisp
Topic: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?
Replies: 19
Views: 20977

Re: Anyone using Lisp for web in production?

Not quite in production yet; give me a couple of days. Seriously, I've four sites that should be going beta tomorrow. It's taken me a while to come up to speed, as my programming background before Lisp was SQL and scripting in shell, perl and PHP. Now that I've made progress up the learning curve, i...